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The EU has tied its own hands. It cannot intervene in Catalonia
Brussels must adhere to its rulebook. It has no mechanism for secession disputes, such as that in Spain, writes Guardian columnist Natalie Nougayrède
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  • Madrid is determined to prevent an independence vote it regards as illegal Catalonia was tense this weekend ahead of an independence referendum that has divided Spain.
  • Likely scenarios following Sunday’s referendum, after which the Catalan government declared 90% of voters were in favour of independence from Spain What exactly happened in Catalonia on Sunday?
  • The Spanish prime minister, Mariano Rajoy, speaking on Sunday night, said the government had done what it had had to do and thanked the police for acting with “firmness and serenity”.
  • Amid scenes of chaos and police violence, the Spanish government has said this is just the start of their plans to totally bollocks up this whole Catalan referendum thing.
  • Today, Friday, most people in Spain are so incensed about the Catalan situation that they wouldn't mind a legal referendum to vote about GETTING RID OF CATALONIA!!!!!
  • In Spain we have 4 co-official languages spanish (castilian), basque, galician and catalan, but in Valencia the speaks their own one as Balearic islands.
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The crisis in Catalonia is being fed by pernicious myths on both sides

Spain is not the oppressive centralised state the independence movement alleges, says El País columnist Victor Lapuente Giné

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Published: 3. 10. 2017 12:28:20

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  • Nowhere in your narrative was they any room for a UK Conservative voter who has no time for Spanish separatists, nor for Corbynists, nor for the revolutionary bleatings of the likes of Paul Mason.
  • The first, shared by Catalan separatists and the global leftwing intelligentsia alike, is that Spain’s government has historically been highly authoritarian and centralist.
  • Some of the best histories of Spain have been written by British historians: JH Elliot's La Espana Imperial, Anthony Beevor's The Battle for Spain, Paul Preston's Spanish Holocaust, etc.
  • Amid scenes of chaos and police violence, the Spanish government has said this is just the start of their plans to totally bollocks up this whole Catalan referendum thing.
  • Assuming Spain agrees to an independent Catalan state, Catalunia will desperately need to gain EU membership unopposed, as well as continued access to the Spanish market, worth 25% of its GDP.
King Felipe: Catalan authorities have 'scorned' all Spaniards with referendum

Spanish monarch uses strongly worded television address to chastise Catalan president, Carles Puigdemont, for attempting to break the ‘unity of Spain’

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Published: 4. 10. 2017 01:27:29

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Catalonia riven with tension as referendum day arrives

Madrid is determined to prevent an independence vote it regards as illegal

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Published: 2. 10. 2017 12:34:02

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  • Here is a very interesting video that brings in an entire new perspective on the Catalonia referendum- from the perspective of FC Barcelona.
  • Should Catalonia secede without the EU27 countries recognizing the new state, they would have to consider Catalonia part of Spain, a member country, and no trade or financial sanctions could be applied to it.
  • The international media also talk about a rich region (Catalonia), which is forced to contribute to the wealth of other poor regions in Spain.
  • Ireland etc wouldn't entertain English rule now Scotland gave in to project fear Catalonia is getting project fear now.... and guess what England is supporting Spain.
  • It just bothers me that they are not being allowed a vote and pointing out that the UK government treated the Scottish independence question more maturely/fairly than the Spanish have the Catalan question.
Spanish ambassador to UK calls Catalan referendum a ‘coup d’etat’

Carlos Bastarreche warns Catalan government’s move will have ‘serious implications’ for European stability

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Published: 2. 10. 2017 12:34:03

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Colm Tóibín: ‘Catalonia is a region in the process of reimagining itself’

Although the polls say the independence side would not win a referendum, Catalans, watching Brexit, have seen how easy it is for polls to be wrong

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Published: 2. 10. 2017 12:34:04

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  • Subsequent kings tried to impose the Spanish language and laws on the region, but they abandoned their attempts in 1931 and restored the Generalitat (the national Catalan government).
  • The economic crisis in Spain has only served to magnify calls for Catalan independence – as the wealthy Barcelona region is seen as propping up the poorer rest of Spain.
  • Maybe if those who manage to vote get a majority 'si'. the catalan government could declare independence which inevitably would involve more Guardia Civil, Spanish Military and Police taking control.
  • The central government, mindful Spain only enjoyed a parliamentary democracy and constitution after 1975 and nearly lost it in 1981 , insists on the illegality of the referendum and the Catalan nationalists always invoke the spectre of Franco.
Catalan referendum: preliminary results show 90% in favour of independence

Spanish prime minister defends violent response to poll, as raids on ballot stations by riot police leave hundreds of Catalans injured

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Published: 2. 10. 2017 01:04:41

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Catalan leader calls for mediation with Spain over independence

Carles Puigdemont says commission ‘cannot look the other way’ after almost 900 were injured in referendum crackdown

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Published: 2. 10. 2017 15:26:10

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Catalonia and Spain need a compromise, but who can deliver one?

Spain is hit by a sudden crisis that could have been avoided. A German-style confederation could still work – if there are politicians prepared to try it

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Published: 3. 10. 2017 18:26:01

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  • Have others noticed there seems to be is a deliberate coordinated campaign in other countries media to refer to Cataluyna as Catalonia which is Spanish and an insult to the Catalan people.
  • And you would be astonished to learn that Spanish regions have, in some instances, more competences than some US states, federal law in the US has a greater reach than Spanish government laws in Spain.
  • A compromise would be: the Spanish police stops brutalising the Catalan population (that much is a conditio sine qua non) and Spain as well as Catalonia agrees to a new, orderly referendum.
  • People going peacefully to vote are not rioting or causing a situation that requires massive, militarized force - it really is shameful that you justify the use of state aggression against peaceful citizens.
  • Yes, the Spanish (right wing) government has forbidden people in Catalonia to vote because such a vote undertaken by the state led by a Catalan (right wing led) government was illegal under the constitution.
I was Catalan, Spanish and European. But Mariano Rajoy has changed all that

What should have been an unofficial poll has been turned into a conflict evocative of the civil war, says Barcelona-born journalist Irene Baqué

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Published: 3. 10. 2017 12:37:21

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The Guardian view on Catalonia’s referendum: the Spanish state has lost

Editorial: Police brutality has ignited the political crisis. Can Madrid and the pro-independence movement find a way forward?

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Published: 2. 10. 2017 12:34:00

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  • Basically, the question is the following: a legitimate local government decides to stage a referendum deemed illegal by a legitimate national government and the regions own court of justice.
  • On the other hand, both Catalonia and the Basque Country in Spain are one of the regions in Europe with more political competences, respect and empowerment of their local language and culture.
  • There were tensions and fierce arguments in the UK over the Scots independence referendum and over Brexit, but we never had national riot police on the streets wielding batons, firing rubber bullets and seizing ballot boxes.
  • The deluge of distressing pictures and the figure of 800 people injured have justifiably shocked a lot of persons and provoked the corresponding media outrage.
  • Evil vile comments are posted on here and the other forementioned online publications ,death is wished on people who voted Leave who had every right to exercise their vote.
After the Catalan referendum: what happens next?

Likely scenarios following Sunday’s referendum, after which the Catalan government declared 90% of voters were in favour of independence from Spain

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Published: 2. 10. 2017 14:18:31

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The EU has tied its own hands. It cannot intervene in Catalonia

Brussels must adhere to its rulebook. It has no mechanism for secession disputes, such as that in Spain, writes Guardian columnist Natalie Nougayrède

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Published: 3. 10. 2017 23:45:15

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  • The King of Spain and the Spanish government are acting as if no transgressions against civic harmony took place on Sunday.
  • EU has become a prison for people and prepared to justify police crimes and atrocities in Catalonia.
  • This is the organisation that people are so crestfallen at the idea of leaving.
  • This would work with Podemos and PSOE who both want a constituional review, and it would give Catalonia an opportunity to step back from the edge within a better more federal Spain.
  • The ignorance about the matter includes The New York Times (no less) calling Catalonia "Spain's economic powerhouse".
Opinion divided by the Catalan referendum

Letters: Readers respond after Sunday’s referendum descended into violence

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Published: 3. 10. 2017 17:36:08

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